TWIP – deeproot Pinball’s High End Theme Revealed, Scott Danesi Talks New Game, Todd Tuckey Pinball Books, More

— This Week’s Top 5 Stories —

1. EXCLUSIVE: deeproot’s High End Theme Revealed – Alice in Wonderland

 

Remember previously when we learned that deeproot Pinball’s planned price range was going to be approximately $3,500 – $50,000?  Last week, This Week in Pinball learned which theme they are planning to use for their high end machine – the one that would sell for up to $50,000: Alice in Wonderland.

What do we know about this theme?  Not much at this point, but a little.  We know that Jeremy Packer (AKA Zombie Yeti) had previously done artwork for Alice in Wonderland, and that deeproot now owns the rights to that artwork.  We also know that John Popadiuk had previously designed a foam core mockup of an Alice in Wonderland pinball machine – you can see a picture of that here.

As has been covered here before, deeproot Pinball has a huge aspirations to change the pinball industry, and they have quite a long road ahead of them to get ready for their official launch, which is expected to be at the Texas Pinball Festival in March of 2019.  That being said, TWIP has heard some rumors about the features in this pinball machine, and if those rumors are true, Alice in Wonderland will be a pinball machine like no other.


2. Scott Danesi Discusses New Game

Last week at the Southern Fried Game Room Expo, Charlie Emery and Scott Danesi were interviewed by 904 Pinball Zine (Facebook, YouTube) – you can watch the full interview here on YouTube.  Spooky had recently confirmed that Danesi is working on a second game, and here is an interesting exchange from the interview about the second game:

Scott Danesi: I have started another game.  Very very early, just started.  But it will be a Spooky-released game.

Charlie Emery: I’ve seen it, it’s awesome.

Scott: Its just started, its not even a thing yet!

Charlie: It’s really cool.

PinballZine: Just started means…

Scott: Like I just put some stuff in a computer…

PinballZine: You didn’t have stuff toiling the back of your head?

Scott: Well, I’m getting the stuff out of the back of my head onto…I’m just garbage dumping it down for now…It’s gonna take a long time.

Charlie: Not that long. [laughs]

Scott: Stop it!  It’s going to take a long time for me to do it because it has to happen organically, otherwise its not going to be fun.

PinballZine: Organic meaning…

Scott: Organic meaning I work on it when I’m feeling it.  I don’t want to force it out, because if I force it out, I’m going to miss things, some stuff won’t be right, it won’t be the way I want it to be.  I’m going to try to do the same sort of process I did with TNA.

Charlie: We’re lucky enough right now to be in a position where we don’t have to rush the next game.  There is no reason on earth to rush the next game.

Scott: You can rush game development once the creative aspect is done.  But rushing creative stuff is dangerous.  So I’m going to try really hard not to rush that part.

You can watch the exchange here!

Want to join on the discussion and speculation of Danesi’s second creation?  Check out this Pinside thread!


3. The Importance of Total Nuclear Annihilation to Spooky Pinball

In the same interview mentioned above by 904 Pinball Zine (Facebook, YouTube), Charlie discussed how important Total Nuclear Annihilation has been to Spooky Pinball.  Here are some of the highlights:

PinballZine: In the business cycle of things, TNA was a big deal for Spooky, right?

Charlie: Yeah, the original intent was that Alice Cooper was going to be ready in fall of 2017, which means we were really going to have to stand on the gas.  And there were a couple reasons why that came to fruition, we had some contract manufacturing jobs, one did fantastic, one did pretty good, but didn’t quite extend as far as we had hoped…so we need to stand on the gas and get Alice Cooper ready for market.  At the same time, we were talking to Scott, he was quite a bit farther along and we began to compare notes on how hard it would be to get his game to market quickly, which would give us more time to polish Alice and get it exactly the way we want it.  I don’t ever like rushing anything, but sometimes the nature of the beast – it is what you do.  Its why Cactus Canyon exists, because Williams had to keep the production line moving – the game is ready, throw it out there.  Never an ideal situation.  And we’re getting better and getting to the point where we do have some cushion, and TNA was a huge decision for us to either do what we’ve always done, and keep it a collector market and this is how many we’re going to make…and we stick to that, we’ve never once gone back and made another run, even though we’re losing money doing it.  There are people that would love an Americas Most Haunted and I’d love to build it for you, but we said 150 and we stick by it.  So to leave TNA open, because we honestly didn’t know if it was going to sell 50, 100 or 500.  It was a big decision but it really worked out.  We’ve had this conversation – TNA is kind of the evergreen for Spooky, just like Wizard of Oz is for Jersey Jack, and keeps them alive and keeps them going…

It is really good for us to have a title we can just make indefinitely.  It is the first game we’ve ever committed to that we’re going to build X number of games on day 1…we were committed to doing at least 50.  It is doing very well.  This is going to be the first game that Spooky just – we committed to making X games, a little risk on our part and Pinball Life and everybody else that we work with, and it paid off.  But once we get caught up with production, and right now we’ve shipped a little less than half, we’ve shipped about 200 of the games that have been ordered.  When we finally do get to the point where we’re caught up we’re going to continue building TNA.  It is going to be the first thing you ever see come from us where you can just – hopefully down the road, we can show up at a show with a few games in the trailer, play them in our booth, and if we’ve got one here you can take it home.

Before the game was launched, we made a pool at work, and everyone guessed how many were going to sell.  And so far, 75% of us are out because we all guessed lower.  To date, it has sold over 430 units…its really done well.  And honestly I do believe if that were sitting at a bigger company that can crank them out faster, it’d be 1,000 units right now, but we’ll get there.

The game has been very route heavy – before it would be 90% home use and 10% route, we’re probably 40% route and 60% home now on that game, because it does do very well.  And we have pushed it – if you’re a high profile location, your income depends on that game…

Charlie also shared that both TNA and Alice can be “on the line” at the same time.  You can watch the full interview here on YouTube!


4. Todd Tuckey Pinball Books

Todd Tuckey of TNT Amusements announced recently that he has signed a book deal!  And not just for one book – for 10 books, which will tell tales of all different kinds of machines!  Check out his video here that announces it.  He shares some details:

  • 10 volumes coming
  • Each one will cover 30-40 machines
  • Each edition will be 200 pages, full coler glossy on heavy stock
  • They will cover a variety of pinball manufacturers from the 50s through the latest machines
  • They will also include tips and things you should do to each machine of each era

Check out the website here to pre-order these books!!


5. Aurich Lawson Gets His Alien Limited Edition Machine

Aurich Lawson (artist for Alien pinball machine) shared that he finally received his Alien LE pinball machine from Heighway Pinball.  For the full timeline and more on the fall of Heighway Pinball, click here.  After receiving his machine, he shared the following on this Pinside post:

“If you haven’t been following the saga (and who can blame you) Heighway has gone out of business, and their final act was to send me my black trim Alien LE. Just showed up a couple days ago, sitting in the box in my garage still. The people at the factory were really great about making sure that happened, and I’m grateful to them.

Thing is, I’ve just got too much emotional baggage tied up in the damn thing, the company never paid me a dime after years of work, and I want to just be mercenary and flip it for whatever cash I can get. Some people want me to keep it, and I get that, but I’m not really looking to have that conversation. I love the team I worked with, I think we made a killer game, but for my own personal mental health I just need it out of my life. And feeling like I was paid something would be nice.

There were three LEs made as the final run. One to me, one to the animator Kelly, and one that just sold for $13k. That’s the closest thing to any kind of sales mark for this. There might be some others floating around, I honestly don’t have any numbers. My understanding is that the total run of Alien is between 100-200 machines, mostly Standards. As far as I know they’ll never be made again.

Normally when I sell a game I’m looking for no fuss, I prefer to make private deals quietly and easily, don’t care about hunting for the top dollar. But I’m sitting on something rare, final game from a dead company belonging to the game artist. I also worked really hard for a long time on this, I’d like to turn it into something if I’m letting it go, and not shortchange myself.

I just have no clue what to even list it for, I’m in uncharted waters here. Open to feedback, suggestions, offers, whatever. I can make a real sale thread at some point, but if it moves before that happens I’ll donate to Pinside still.”

The machine sold within hours of his post – congrats to Aurich!


— What Else is Happening in Pinball —

Josh Sharpe Interview with Head2Head Pinball

The Head2Head Pinball Podcast continued their streak of interviews last week by interviewing Josh Sharpe, President of the International Flipper Pinball Association (IFPA).  The interview gave a good overview of competitive pinball and the the IFPA – check out the full interview here!

Head2Head: Give us your 30 second elevator pitch on what the IFPA is.

Josh Sharpe: I think today it’s become the governing body of pinball as a sport.  Sanctioning events, helping events get started – we’re sort of here as a global resource to try to tie the whole world of competitive pinball together.


Supreme Pinball Now at Sunshine Laundromat in NYC

The Supreme Pinball is now on location at two places in the world, both in New York City.  The first place is Max Fish.  Then recently, Sunshine Laundromat added a Supreme Pinball to their lineup.  Check out their announcement and description of Supreme Pinball here.

(If you’re reading their description and thinking it sounds familiar, it is because they copy and pasted it from this article on This Week in Pinball.  I can only assume they found the writing incredible and couldn’t resist 🙂 )


Slam Tilt Podcast – New RSS Feed

The Slam Tilt Podcast has moved away from Podcast Garden and now has a new RSS feed – resubscribe if necessary using http://www.slamtiltpodcast.com/feed/podcast.


New Bowen Tutorial: TX-Sector

Bowen created a new PAPA tutorial last week, this time on TX-Sector – check out the video here!


PAPA Website Redesign

Speaking of the Professional & Amateur Pinball Association (PAPA), they recently released a redesigned website – check it out!


Don’t Forget to Sign Up for June Giveaways

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David Thiel Defends deeproot

In this post on Pinside, David Thiel had this exchange with Pinsider Frolic.

frolic: “Considering David has been a hired gun working for every pinball company (except Stern at the moment which chooses not to work with him because hes been taking other work), obviously Deeproot threw some real money at him to lock him up. David is great, but we’ve seen this story before of pinball startups throwing money around all over the place before they’ve shipped a product. Too bad David will be taken away from the actual pinball world during this time.”

daudioguy: Don’t want to go too off topic but:
Deep Root Pinball will be actual pinball. I know it is hard to wait and that existing pronouncements have been a bit incendiary.
Everybody is just going to have to take a big breath and wait till March.
Deep Root Pinball is hardly throwing money around, rather they are spending money on very talented experienced and new pinball people to create an infrastructure for pinball development and production.
I’ve been involved with a number of pinball startups: Data East, Multimorphic, and Heighway. Deep Root is investing in the core infrastructure to provide a space for talented collaborators to create fun pinball machines. Their upfront commitment is unique in my experience.

I can’t predict the future but my instinct tells me that this is going to be fun.

Back on topic – Jersey Jack’s Pirates of the Caribbean is turning out great. Eric and Keith have knocked one out of the park. My association with JJP will be put on hold for a while. I’m glad that JJPOTC is the one I stopped with.


Head2Head Interview with Josh Kugler

Head2Head Pinball interviewed Josh Kugler, software designer (and more) for American Pinball.  They covered a plethora of information, including some details on the playfield layout of Game #2…check out the podcast here!


What is your favorite TOY in a pinball machine?

 

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— Cool and Crazy Stuff —

Sandra Bullock Wants a Demolition Man Pinball Machine

Sandra Bullock mentioned in this interview that she is owed a pinball machine by Warner Brothers.  Sylvester Stallone, Wesley Snipes, and Benjamin Bratt were gifted pinball machines after the Demolition Man movie, but Bullock was not.  We’ve also heard that the machines were a gift for providing voice work for the machine, which Sandra Bullock was not asked to do because at the time she wasn’t as big of a star as the others.  Who knows.  But at this point, hey pinball community, lets get Sandra Bullock a Demolition Man!!

 


RIP Anthony Bourdain

Huge thanks to TWIP reader Ken Harmount for passing this along – it is Anthony Bourdain playing pinball at Asbury Park – check it out:

 


Ed Robertson of the Barenaked Ladies Mods his Iron Maiden

Ed Robertson, frontman of the Barenaked Ladies appears to be enjoying his new sound mod on his Iron Maiden pinball machine.  A lot.  You should just watch the video.  You’re welcome (or I’m sorry).  EDIT – this was not a sound mod, the original video was dubbed over.  It syncs up so well, it is hard to tell!


Should There be a Rap Themed Pinball Machine?

What do you think?  Join in the conversation on this Pinside thread!


— To Those Who Make This Hobby Better —

Shoutout to Lloyd Olson, who operates SS Billiards in Minnesota.  You can find Lloyd on Pinside as LTG, and between Pinside and Rec.Games.Pinball, he has helped thousands of pinheads troubleshoot and fix their machines (including me, on several different occasions).  Thanks for all you do for pinball Lloyd, keep it up!!  🙂


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— What is Coming Up on TWIP —

  • Tuesday – Your Picks for the Top Ten Limited Edition Pinball Machines
  • Wednesday – Name the Game and Giveaway Extravaganza!
  • Thursday – …

 


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Dialed In! Translite – autographed by Jersey Jack Guarnieri

 

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Stern Pinball

Most Recent Titles

Aerosmith   AC/DC Vault Edition  |  Star Wars  |  Guardians of the Galaxy  |  AC/DC Luci Vault Edition  |  Iron Maiden

Announced/Confirmed

Elvira 3

Rumors of Future Titles

Deadpool?  |  The Munsters?  |  The Beatles?  |  Steve Ritchie Black Knight 3000?  |  Superman 1978?  |  Beetlejuice?

Jersey Jack Pinball

Most Recent Titles

Wizard of Oz  |  The Hobbit  |  Dialed In  |  Pirates of the Caribbean

Rumors of Future Titles

Willy Wonka?  |  Toy Story?  |  Guns N’ Roses

Chicago Gaming/Planetary Pinball

Most Recent Titles

Medieval Madness Remake  |  Attack From Mars Remake

Rumors of Future Titles

Monster Bash Remake?  |  Cactus Canyon Remake?  |  Theatre of Magic?  |  Big Bang Bar Remake?

Spooky Pinball

Most Recent Titles

Rob Zombie’s Spookshow International  |  Dominos (*contract game)  |  Jetsons (*contract game)  |  Total Nuclear Annihilation (*contract/house game)  |  Alice Cooper’s Nightmare Castle

Rumors of Future Titles

Licensed Title  |  Scott Danesi Second Game

American Pinball

Most Recent Titles

Houdini

Rumors of Future Titles

Oktoberfest?

P3 (Multimorphic)

Lexy Lightspeed  |  Cannon Lagoon  |  Cosmic Cart Racing

Pinball Brothers

Rumors of Future Titles

Queen?  |  Barry Oursler’s Original Theme?  |  Playboy?

Dutch Pinball

Most Recent Titles

Bride of Pinbot 2.0  |  Bride of Pinbot 3.0 (on hold)  |  The Big Lebowski (production issues)

Circus Maximus

The Pinball Circus Remake  |  Kingpin

Homepin

Thunderbirds (coming soon)

deeproot Pinball

Announced/Confirmed

Fire and Brimstone

Rumors of Future Titles

Retro Atomic Zombie Adventureland?  |  Alice in Wonderland?  |  Magic Girl?  |  Original Houdini design?

Silver Castle Pinball

Timeshock (coming soon)

Phénix Pinball

Olympic Goblin

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